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We are so wired to consciousness which is one aspect of us. That is not going to change. No consciousness energy field that couples us to the universe then no “sense of existence” or no mind.
Do I have to remind you of this illustration? Saves me writing another 1000 words:
The above is you being alive with a “sense of existence” in you.
But you have a thinking mind? You have some free will options in verbal thinking to create something of your own for yourself to make choices you want to make for yourself. Verbal thinking is a spinner of thought and part of the creative process. You can take an observation and spin it into anything you want in your mind. This is the only, “I am free” option you have in mind. Don’t pretend you have complete free will because you don’t. The body-mind is such you are totally wired to the universe and the processes of the mind and body and the integration of information in the unconscious mind all work independently of your self. But verbal thinking gives some power to create things for yourself and by just that little freedom that is given to you you can choose to be positive or negative from what you create from the information you have and how you use them. If what you choose to do is mostly negative the entropy of your synthetic consciousness that you create for society and the infrastructure of your living space will increase and only can go so far away from the natural laws of the universe before it tangents back to you with a correction. That is life, as they say.
How can we ever know if existence is independent of human consciousness?
It is not independent of human consciousness in the sense that if there was no consciousness then there is literally no you.
Your “sense of existence” in you comes from your mind and perception.
You know you are alive as you are walking talking disco dancing. Yes, I am alive, euphoria in mind generated from a heightened physiological metabolic state of mind. It is difficult to tell where that “sense of existence” feeling in you comes from – it comes from your mind and the mind is an electromagnetic phenomenon; you can see why it is difficult to tell where it is coming from because it is coming from here:
From an electromagnetic energy field that is the mind that has its own processing and integration energy profile that is coupled to the brain. Do you know where your feelings are felt, that sense of self, can you locate it. All things of the electromagnetic mind can only have a sense and cannot be located in the body and mind. They are all things in themselves in the mind and body that we have given a word which we cannot locate.
The Hard Problem of Consciousness
The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of explaining why any physical state is conscious rather than nonconscious. It is the problem of explaining why there is “something it is like” for a subject in conscious experience, why conscious mental states “light up” and directly appear to the subject. The usual methods of science involve explanation of functional, dynamical, and structural properties—explanation of what a thing does, how it changes over time, and how it is put together. But even after we have explained the functional, dynamical, and structural properties of the conscious mind, we can still meaningfully ask the question, Why is it conscious? This suggests that an explanation of consciousness will have to go beyond the usual methods of science. Consciousness therefore presents a hard problem for science, or perhaps it marks the limits of what science can explain. Explaining why consciousness occurs at all can be contrasted with so-called “easy problems” of consciousness: the problems of explaining the function, dynamics, and structure of consciousness. These features can be explained using the usual methods of science. But that leaves the question of why there is something it is like for the subject when these functions, dynamics, and structures are present. This is the hard problem.
We like to think we are special OFF the universe but we are not. The specials are the ones who sees and realises our place in the Universe and hence live accordingly.
Evolution in us still progresses in the mind:
If you try and force yourself to decouple your mind (electromagnetic mind, a phenomenon in you) from consciousness which you can do via meditation, which was part of the Buddhas enlightenment process, by stopping all thinking in your mind and being just in the presence of consciousness, and then just another step further in mind, when the electromagnetic phenomenon of the mind ceases to be, you will find that the mind disappears altogether and returns with no memory of where it had been. Without consciousness, you are “nothing”. In fact, without the Consciousness-Mind coupling, you are “nothing”.
The unconscious mind might be part of the creative process. But the mind cannot be creative about nothing in mind. It needs to be creative about something. The unconscious mind might do all the integration work and the processing work of the creative process but it needs to integrate and process something.
So how is that something created?
It might start from an observation. Something might capture your interest and then you might want to expand the observation into an idea. Your unconscious would know about this observation that you are interested in but it still does not know what you want to do with it. The unconscious mind is at your mercy — you tell it what to do. You need to give it information to work on.
So you tale that observation and then you spin it in your mind and turn it into something else and then the unconscious mind integrates the new information and process the info and the then it sends it back to you are perceptions and then you decide you want to push the idea further and so on and so on.
So what spins the idea in your mind. There is only ONE thing that can do this spinning of observations in your mind and that is verbal thinking. What is verbal thinking — it is you having a silent conversation with yourself and building up an idea in your mind. It is like 2 people having a conversation aloud about an idea — but in this case, you are having a silent conversation with yourself — verbal thinking.
The unconscious mind processing and integrating information might send you irs results via an insight. We never know from where an insight pops up in your mind as it just appears but always about what you are preoccupied with within your mind. Insight might be from the unconscious mind or even from the ether from the universe with its own mind. We are connected to everything.
The processing of information might even be part of the universe, as where do you think your memory is stored — what in your brain in some brain tissue. Which is more plausible in some brain tissue or coded in the ether. Especially when your mind is an electromagnetic phenomenon:
So the unconscious mind that you mention might be a greater space of our mind and also being part of the universe itself:
So creativity is all the above working together and more of which we still do not know about but the baseline process is pretty much what is above.
Creativity is not just of the unconscious processing in the mind. I would say that if not for verbal thinking there would be no creativity. It is a very important part of the creative process.
If you look back in history, you will find that only when verbal thinking evolved in us is that we progressed at great speed. The light bulb is only 140 years old. Verbal thinking evolved in us only after the alphabet was invented by us for language and that was in the 7th century and that was more than 1000 years ago and to think that the light bulb only turned up 140 years ago.
It originated around the 7th century from Latin script. Since then, letters have been added or removed to give the current Modern English alphabet of 26 letters with no diacritics, digraphs, nor special characters. The word alphabet is a compound of the first two letters of the Greek alphabet, alpha and beta.
One should be glad that we have the mind we have here today but we must understand what is mind and learn to control the mind — that is for the future when we shall progress in leaps and bounds when that time comes — when we have control over our minds and find our full potential in mind.
Can I tell you a story about the Bible?
It is the first BOOK ever published.
Although we speak of the Bible as one Book, because it tells one world-wide story, yet this one Book is made up of many books — of a whole library of books in fact.
It did not start off as a book as we know it today, but all the same, it is the first book that was made as it was complied to be what we see of it today.
Seeing the words so clearly printed on fine white paper, readers do not stop to think that they have come down to us from the days when the greatest nations in the world wrote their best books on lumps of clay, or on rough, brittle paper made from brown reeds.
There are sixty-six books in the Bible, written by at least forty different authors. Books on history; collections of sacred songs; lives of good men and women; stirring appeals to the sinful. God chose the men best fitted to write each part. He called them to His work; He spoke to their hearts; He put His Spirit into their minds.
And all books that came after was in the image of the Bible.
Bible the first book:
So think about us as we use books to read for fun and for education.
Also about our perception and subjective experience.
What we are come out of these books and our perceptive world are subjectively created from these books and what we read. We all have different worlds in our minds from the books we read and the experiences we have and we project ourselves into the world with these subjective perceptions.
Jordan Peterson’s Realization About the Bible
This is how I see it so please do your own research. I say how this works is also because of my own research in wanting to know how the mind works. I want to know so I can have control over my own mind.
It all works as 1-Thing but to see how it works we sometimes have to look at it in all its parts.
This is how I see it.
I don’t believe that the brain/mind works in brain tissue only. seriously all the workings of the brain and mind working by chemicals moving around the cells and interstitial fluid is record speed to give us thinking and perception etc.
There is a working relationship between the brain and the mind.
The mind is an electromagnetic phenomenon working off the brain. It is this that tells me that the brain-mind is working as a dynamic energy movement between the brain/mind processing and integrating information.
This to me is an illustration of the mind:
All the mystical experiences of the past by the mystics and via meditation it has said that the mind can stop all thinking in the mind. It is a state of being in the mind called “Sunyata.” The mind is also known to end and disappear and return with no memory of where it had gone. This start/stop process of the mind suggests that the mind is a phenomenon working OFF the brain.
But there is also some info from science:
Most scientists now embrace monism, that the stuff of mind is the same as the stuff of the brain, matter. Many, particularly in the artificial intelligence field, take the view that consciousness is just an inevitable product of complex computation, as the evolutionary biologist T. H. Huxley put it, like the steam whistle, which accompanies the work of a locomotive [but] without influence upon its machinery.
all neurones are generate an associated energy field, known as an electromagnetic field or em field. This field contains precisely the same information as the circuitry that generated it.
brain generates its own em field, a fact that is well known and utilised in brain scanning techniques such as EEG. The second is that the brain’s em field is indeed the seat of consciousness
Most scientists now embrace monism, that the stuff of mind is the same as the stuff of the brain, matter. Many, particularly in the artificial intelligence field, take the view that consciousness is just an inevitable product of complex computation, as the evolutionary biologist T. H. Huxley put it, like the steam whistle, which accompanies….
So the electromagnetic (EM) nature of the mind is working together with the brain and seriously just common sense these are not static energy fields creating perception in us. There must be a dynamic energy process between the brain and the EM mind that is generating perception for us.
There will be a feedback/feedforward process between the brain and the EM mind. Some aspects of science tell us that in the universe the double torus is prevalent in many aspects of the working of the universe, infolding and unfolding within itself and processing and integrating information.
This energy profile is present in many areas of nature. This is even a black hole profile over the Universe and how mass and the EM spectrum was created at the singularity.
The creation process in the universe.
So over the brain, the double torus also generates perception at the singularity:
The aura around the body-mind comes from its energy dynamics and the EM nature of the nervous system.
For me, it was when I realised that I was always looking back to my past for my solutions. Nothing “new” comes out of this kind of mind.
This video barely 3 minutes of it of being free of the known is at the centre of freedom in the mind. It is responsible for opening up the mind to its higher self. It is responsible for releasing all the energies of creativity in you. It is the solution for you to have control over your thinking mind when you start to find a workaround in mind to be free of the known in you.
I can suggest to you how to create a mind that is free from the known yet to be able to use everything you have learnt and experienced.
But you must first watch this video before you progress to see what exactly is the problem that holds us back from being free in mind and not having control over our minds.
Freedom from the Known | Krishnamurti
3 steps to freedom in the mind.
To be able to be free from the known and yet still be able to use the information. You might think that the answer is going to be about the sound of one hand clapping or perhaps some chit chat metaphor about the mind. Will a quote from Einstein help to convince you how to be free from the known?
When you hear somebody like Sydney Banks talk so fluently about the process of thought and how the lack of understanding of thinking is the reason that we do not have control over our minds, it is because their minds are centred and reorganised and they are talking off their new minds and hence they see everything clearly in mind. They have found the access point out of their minds and freed themselves from the known in themselves. But they talk about the mind and thinking without showing you the infrastructure of the mind. You listening only know the chit chat and hence create a method for yourself and the Truth does not come out of a method. The mind needs to sit freely in its mind spaces and to be centred in such a way that in its centre is only of choiceless observation and the “now” in you, so you are not always wired to the past in you and what you have learnt or experienced. So you sit in a centre of “nothing” but only of choiceless observation and hence free from the known and come out of that centre to think only and when you need to have access to your memory or of what you know. But the centre should always be just the “now” in you, and from moment to moment in mind.
But to be naturally centred you need to know what you have to be centred from and hence you need to have a baseline structure of your mind spaces and thought processes.
You have 2 main types of thinking:
Verbal thinking and
visual/spatial thinking or image-making in the mind.
You should know your mind spaces and hence to be able to plan your escape route and hence to be able to decide how to centre your mind.
Road map of the thinking mind. 3 steps to freedom in the mind.
I had come to this illustration above out of necessity to be free of what is known in me as I realised my mind was constantly trying to access my memory and how is the “new” in me to emerge or to be discovered if all I am doing is to dipping myself in my past for solutions. It would be the circle where the ending is the beginning all over again with no escape route.
The illustration above is divided such:
The higher mind needs some realisation to find.
It was Krishnamurti who helped me see this with his conversations with the Physicist’s David Bohm.
So I drew out this illustration from those conversations:
Conscious awareness can see the action of Truth but thought cannot directly see what conscious awareness sees. “Insight” is not of the thinking mind but from the repository of the universe where all information is stored including that which you still do not know about and which is still “new” to you.
So you can see what the escape route is to be free of the known in you and to find the “new” via insight. It is through the silent mind:
If you centre yourself in the silent mind and only be in the “now” in mind from moment to moment of choiceless observation, then you have access to insight and then use verbal thinking and access your past only and when it is necessary. To be able to use your past memory and knowledge and experiences and free of it when you are centred for feedback from the universe when you are centred.
If you know your brain operating frequencies then you will see the centre clearly:
This is your mind at its full potential, with access to the universe via consciousness, when you realise that the mind is just a phenomenon of the brain but works OFF the brain:
The thing in itself the process of fluid intelligence is how your thinking adapts to a problem to solve.
When you are younger you are natural fluid thinkers because you haven’t learnt much yet and hence intelligence is put in the deep end and then you play discover how to solve the problem.
Then as you get older you create a sort of crystalised intelligence in your mind where all your problem solving comes from learning. So nothing new comes out of you as you are always referencing the known in you or to your past memory.
I think Einstein had said adults need to think like children and have more play in their thinking.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.”
So from children to adults, our minds get crystalised with knowledge and then everything comes out of referencing out of that knowledge.
Nothing wrong with having the knowledge but how can you be free from the known in you after you have been crystalised in mind with knowledge. It is to think like children think, knowing nothing and from a centre of curiosity and exploration. You are only taking the technique of thinking from the child but maintaining the knowledge you have accumulated and being able to draw from it when needed.
So how do you become a child in mind in terms of thinking when you are an adult.
You centre your mind in a place where you are free of the known in you, in the silent mind of only observation and then initially meet the problem put to you with no knowledge on how to solve it and look at the problem with curiosity and exploration in mind hence allowing the “new” to show itself as insight and then also to be able to draw from the crystalised mind of knowledge and add the new to integration and processing of information in the mind, Curiosity, explore and call on the known when needed and yet still be able to be free of it, when looking for something new to appear in mind.
“The process of how you think on the fly to problem solve, connect dots and strategies your next moves, all has to do with how you observe and learn every new experience as it’s happening to you.”
The way the adult can be a child in mind and to be free of the known is to centre oneself in a no-mind state of being in the “now” in the silent mind and think out of this centre:
“Ability to reason quickly and think abstractly; a combination of reasoning and abstract thought”
“The ability to form concepts, reason and identify similarities; it is intuitive and represents the activity involved when forming new mental structures rather than making use of old ones. It includes the ability to see complex relationships and solve problems, and it can decline with age if not ‘exercised’”
“…the name of the form of intelligence that comprises all of our fluid abilities.”
“Fluid Intelligence is more than just accumulated knowledge of subjects. It factors in quick thinking and reasoning abilities in new environments.”
Road map of the thinking mind:
Understanding your mind spaces and find a place in the silent mind to centre yourself:
Centre in the silent mind of brain frequencies:
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