From Jiddu Krishnamurti to the “Resonance Science Foundation”.

The “Resonance Science Foundation” is presently working on a unified theory of how we are connected to the Universe. They are actually working it almost from first principles while still coming off the work of those who came before them.

Remember that they are writing the equations and are coming close, if not there already, to putting it all together.

Me, I have followed the work of Jiddu Krishnamurti for many years and tried my best to understand what he was trying to say about the mind. I think where Krishnamurti stopped with being connected to the “intelligence” of the universe, the “Resonance Science Foundation” has worked out the process of creation and how the infrastructure of the Universe has come about and what our place is in it.

This how is how they describe how we are connected to the Universe: Could you start the video at 39:17, from where an attempt is made to describe how we are connected to the Universe.

To me, their work is an extension of Krishnamurti’s work:

I think the mind has a baseline process:

The road map of the thinking mind:

When all thinking in our mind has stopped then we are the universe itself.

 

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It is obvious and in plain sight that it does. It is all part of the evolutionary process.

When you are born you live only with self-awareness and observation only.

Mind trying to figure itself.

Please keep this in mind as you read this:

Jesus said: “Unless you leave yourself behind you cannot be a follower of mine”.

See what “yourself” means in the personality you create for yourself and see how it is created in you.

As you grow older education and experiences.

Epigenetics and neuroplasticity contributing somewhat to the mind opening itself up to new things.

I gather that the brain itself does not fully develop until you are 25.

Then the patterns in the mind are slowly forming, creating its personality and opinions and biases and conditioning processes. The body-mind does not know but it is really creating a false self in the personality which is just a mental construct. Creating dualism in oneself.

The personality has no idea what its true self is and it thinks that the personality is a real thing but really it is like a holographic image of yourself. A mental construct or an illusionary self in oneself.

At this stage, the mind has no idea of how it works or anything about the thinking process. So everything it does only creates chaos within society. All the chaos and shenanigans of the mind come from this false self in oneself.

I am not the only one thinking this way.

In your 30’s 40’s and 50’s you are pretty much doing what is expected of you in society. You have no time to yourself to figure out what really is happening to you in society. I am still on the mind. This is your mind talking in stages in one’s life.

Then one day it dawns on you what is happening to you, and you ask the question, “what is the purpose of life”. See the mind is still flipping itself and chopping and changing.

Epigenetics helps the brain open up new patterns in the brains thinking depending on the questions you are asking yourself.

Then you start looking into the process of thought itself. You find solace in philosophy and religion and the work of the mystics and you find there are things about the mind and its processes that you did not know.

You come to realise that personality is a mental construct as you closely look into the workings of the mind.

You realise that you are self-talking in verbal thinking and realise it was from this form of thinking that all the illusions in your mind were created and you thought it was a real part of you. You realised where all your biases and your opinions were created and your personality.

You realise there is a silent part to you in your mind when all thinking stops.

Science tells you this is true:

Remember that the mind is changing here all the time.

You realise that you have all these years not understood your mind and not used the full potential of your mind and of yourself:

You realise that when all thinking in the mind is made to stop and you are only “being” in the presence of pure consciousness you sense being part of the greater universe and its natural laws and you feel the energy forces of the Universe in the mind.

The mind has now seen the mind’s full potential and being part of the “intelligence” of the Universe.

You now have experienced a mind that sees all and can be used to its full potential. Here, you truly realise that the personality is just a mental construct as the personality disappeared when all thinking in the mind stopped.

Your full potential means you work together with the “intelligence” of the Universe in anything you do.

The mind working with all these numbers and not just with half of it.

Notice what it says when your mind becomes a full spectrum thinker:

145-159 – Genius

“Exception intellectual ability and capable of looking beyond known facts.”

David Bohm interviewed by Evelyn Blau

“DB: You have to see what is essential and universal, and that will transform the mind. The universal belongs to everybody, as well as covering everything, every possible form. It is the general consciousness of mankind. We come now to energy, this whole process of the ego is continually wasting energy, getting you low and confusing you.

EB: In other words, the individual’s perception of themselves as a separate being, is a waste of energy.

Thought can be observed as any matter can be observed.

DB: Yes, because if you see yourself as a particular being you will continually try to protect that being. Your energies will be dissipated.

EB: Earlier you were saying that since thought is a material process, it is necessary to observe the process of thought rather than its contents. How is one to do that? How is one to make that shift and observe the material process when it appears as if the only thing that consciousness is aware of is content?

DB: Before we get to that, another important difference of Krishnamurti is his emphasis on actual life, on being aware of everything, and also his refusal to accept authority, which is really extremely important. There are Buddhists who say that Krishnamurti is saying much the same as the Buddhists, but he says why begin with the Buddha, why not begin with what is here now? That was very important, he refuses to take seriously the comparison with what other people have said. Now to come back to what you were saying, about observation of the material process. You have to see what can be observed about thought aside from the pictures and feelings and its meaning. Whatever you think appears in consciousness as a show. That is the way thought works to display its content, as a show of imagination. Therefore if you think the observer is separate from the observed, it is going to appear in consciousness as two different entities. The point is that the words will seem to be coming from the observer who knows, who sees, and therefore they are the truth, they are a description of the truth. That is the illusion. The way a magician works is exactly the same. Every magician’s work depends on distracting your attention so that you do not see how things are connected. Suddenly something appears out of nothing but you do not see how it depends on what he actually did.”

Then you wish you started life this way knowing your mind first rather than later.

Some final quotes:

“celebration of the spiritual mystery when realised can be through the arts, physics, music etc”

“You don’t decide to be good, but good should ooze out of you”

When all thinking in the mind stops and the “Buddha Nature” is experienced then compassion is. The personality only decides to be good in mind.

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“In new research, scientists have found evidence that LSD, another psychedelic, lowers the barriers that constrain people’s thoughts. In doing so, it frees the mind to wander more easily and experience the world anew.” – What they are suggesting here is the mind is allowed to wander and freely take the 3 steps to freedom in the mind, (via meditation and exploring the mind spaces or by stopping all forms of thinking in the mind)

“On LSD, the brain spent less time on higher-level processing and more on the sensory-driven activities.” – which means it spends more time in self-awareness.

“The whole process of child development and education is to take your brain, which is extremely malleable, and force it to be like everyone else’s brain. Under psychedelics, you go back to a state where bits of the brain that haven’t spoken since you were a baby can cross-talk. And it’s that increased connectivity that allows people to get new insights into old problems,” said David Nutt, professor of neuropsychopharmacology at Imperial College London .

See how opening up the mind solves some mental health issues:

The ability of LSD to free up brain activity may explain why psychedelics can help people with depression, anxiety and other mental health disorders such as post-traumatic stress disorder.

“In depression, people get locked into a way of thinking that is repetitive and ruminative. It’s like tramline thinking,” said Nutt. “Psychedelics disrupt those kinds of processes so people can escape from it.”

Acid test: scientists show how LSD opens doors of perception

From birth to death there is a kind of transformation that happens to us where we start free in our minds at birth and in mind as close to the Universal mind as possible and then slowly we transform in mind via our experiences and gel up into this personality. What has happened is we have drifted as far as possible from the natural in us. Once born with a free mind and learning from everything around us to becoming wired into our experiences and bound by its perception in our minds. We have gone from being totally free from the known in us to be being bound with our experiences and the personality is the result of these experiences.

So to free ourselves from this dilemma we invented spirituality and meditation to double back on our minds and to explore what it was like to have a free mind and to see if we can get back to that set of mind of when we were children again, when we are adults. To be able to learn and see with the full spectrum of our minds.

To do this we need to understand our mind:

3 steps to freedom in the mind. From the freedom of the thinking mind of a child to that of an adult and back to one as a child. If education had incorporated this in us when we were young then we would have known what to do as we grew older. We would know that meditation was not for just getting some rest from the thinking mind but also to explore one’s mind spaces. To see the full potential that is us as adults, which we had in mind as a child and lost it in personality as adults.

LSD just shows us what this whole thing about spiritual practices is trying to show us. We don’t need drugs to show us our minds and we can get to the drug-induced state of mind by natural practices to free our minds from the lower personality state of mind and from opinions and subjective thinking.

The drug-induced state of mind is not the answer, as addiction will tell you it is the wrong way to show you the Truth. Let the scientist show your what LSD does to the mind and why we need to live with a mind which is fully integrated and free to explore, rather than just be a sliver of yourself with your personality mind.

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This illustration below came from reading the book above, “The Ending of Time” (in the mind) – a conversation between Jiddu Krishnamurti and David Bohm, a physicist. I tried to understand what they were saying and drew up this illustration.

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What does it feel like to cross the line in the body-mind and go beyond and wanting to come back because it is unfamiliar?

A single observation can generate multiple ideas or multiple opinions. That is the nature of the subjective frontline thinking mind. So how do you choose which is the correct one.

In your line of reasoning when coming up with multiple opinions or ideas if you follow the facts in the reasoning then you can have a pretty good idea of what might be the right choice. Also, your mind must learn to recognise when it is creating an illusion or a lie in your mind. There is always the Truth in the Lie in you. You need to know this is this the Truth in me and that is that a lie in me.

If you have better control over your thinking mind and experience all its mind spaces then you can make these choices a lot better.

You can also get a 2nd opinion from your mind by silencing the frontline verbal thinking mind and in the silent mind let your intuition work things out for you. It will look at all the choices you created with all your conditioning and your subjective idiosyncrasies in your mind and find the correct solution for you. The intuition can distinguish between the, this and that, in your mind and being in the silent mind intuition is not a spinner of ideas in your mind, it looks at the big picture in the mind and decides. It is more of an intuitive integration process than a spinner of illusions. When you see and experience this difference you can see how you can use your mind spaces to control and make your thinking mind work for you. The verbal thinking mind is a noisy frontline thinking space in the mind and has its reasons for evolving in us after the advent of language but the silent mind is innate in us and been with us longer than the verbal thinking mind.

3 steps to having freedom in your mind and understanding the different mind spaces in the thinking mind:

You know what your verbal thinking mind does.

You know how the silent mind thinks when the verbal thinking mind is silent.

You know what it feels like when the mind crosses the line when all thinking in the mind stops.

The idea is to sense all the working parts of the mind and know what they can do for you.

But what happens when you cross the line and how difficult is it to not return to the dominance of the verbal thinking mind as it was before you crossed the line.

The best description I found in Quora was by Lee Jensen

Noetic meaning: “relating to mental activity or the intellect”.

“Three years into this, you’ve reached the doldrums. You’ve broken the self – there’s no legitimate way back. Those things that motivated you are gone, though phantoms linger, and you have seen past what never satisfied you. This is a dangerous and uncomfortable time.

You could stay in this quiet place and live out your life in hermitage, if your mind is quiet enough to do so. Even if that is not for you, make a point to stay here until you are very, very comfortable with it; the discomfort you are experiencing is the old self struggling to re-emerge. You’ve got to stay with it and push through for the (authentic) Self to initiate.

Meditate; purify the mind and body. It seems counter-intuitive, but diligence is required to do nothing now (in terms of motivating the self). Allow the process to unfold at its own pace. Allow the sediment of thoughts to settle; rushing it will stir them up again. You need to stay here until you have crossed the threshold.

After you cross, a higher motivation will come to you. You will notice it.

It’s the hero’s journey – let it be. Choose your opportunity to emerge carefully.”

It might be easy to draw an illustration to show you that there is a line to cross when all thinking in the mind stops but what does it feel like is a different matter because all you know is what it was like in the past and wanting to return to it or to what you know, but to keep at it until the new you in you takes shape is a very difficult but slowly emerging process.

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I am answering this question from what I experientially know of the process of thinking and brain frequencies and time in the mind and then extending my answer from research done on unconsciousness to show what I have already realised of the mind can extend into what is being discovered by scientists.

What we might discover about ourselves with this question:

Personality and subjective thinking make our world grow more modular just like the brain gets more modular as we fall into unconsciousness.

The brain working like a mini Universe.

The brain was created by the Universe in its own image.

I discovered recently that I can also explain this whole flow of the mind from the active state in mind to the silent passive state of the mind in terms of time in the mind. When the mind is busy the sense of time moves faster in the mind and when the mind is silent and the brain frequencies are on the low side, time in the mind can seem to slow down. Notice that our watches tick constantly 24 hours a day and do not speed up or slow down but in the mind, time can be fast and slow. So I asked myself the question, is the establishment and experiencing enlightenment in the mind is really the process of slowing down, time in the mind.

So look at what research says about what is happening in our brain and mind when we become unconscious:

• “These studies come from a long-standing hypothesis my colleagues and I have had regarding the essential characteristic of why we are conscious and how we become unconscious, based on patterns of information transfer in the brain,” says George A. Mashour, M.D., Ph.D., professor of anesthesiology, director of the Center for Consciousness Science and associate dean for clinical and translational research at the University of Michigan Medical School.
• “We’ve been working for a decade to understand in a more refined way how the spatial and temporal aspects of brain function break down during unconsciousness, how we can measure that breakdown and the implications for information processing,”
• “I published a theoretical article when I was a resident in anesthesiology suggesting that anesthesia doesn’t work by turning the brain off, per se, but rather by isolating processes in certain areas of the brain,” Mashour says. “Instead of seeing a highly connected brain network, anesthesia results in an array of islands with isolated cognition and processing.
• “It’s often suggested that different areas of the brain that typically talk to one another get out of sync during unconsciousness,”
• “We showed in the early stages of sedation, the information processing timeline gets much longer and local areas of the brain become more tightly connected within themselves. That tightening might lead to the inability to connect with distant areas.”
• “We demonstrated that as the brain gets more modular and has more local conversations, the measure of information integration starts to decrease. Essentially, we looked at how the brain network fragmentation was taking place and how to measure that fragmentation, which gives us the sense of why we lose consciousness.”
• “We found that during unconsciousness, disrupted connectivity in the brain and greater modularity are creating an environment that is inhospitable to the kind of efficient information transfer that is required for consciousness.”

But then this:

“For example, we may assume that a patient is fully unconscious based on behavior, but in some cases consciousness can persist despite unresponsiveness.”

So it seems there is unconsciousness in terms of responsiveness of the body-mind, but, consciousness can persist in the person, despite unresponsiveness.

So it looks like the parts of the brain that gives our mind and body their presence in the living space, starts to separate and stop communicating with each other and we become unconscious.

I don’t know if you see similarities in how unconsciousness helps us to understand how the Universe works in sync with everything in it and how society works or does not work when we stop talking to each other due to subjective thinking and cultural differences and opinions and ideas about this and that kind of state on the planet today as we separate further and further away from each other just as the different parts of the brain separate and stop communicating with each other.

Does the working of the whole of the mind, and seeing what happens when we become unconscious, help us sense that we might be operating off a larger pattern in the Universe that is also reflected in all its smaller parts. As science is beginning to find out that the smallest particle in the Universe also has the whole universe in it and that is how the Universe functions and communicate with everything else in the Universe. We are all just ONE-THING working off one big pattern in the Universe.

Can seeing how becoming unconscious also help us see the wholeness of the Universe. The brain working like a mini Universe. Is this discovery part of the enlightenment process of knowing thyself or is it only at the ends of the mind where there is nothing in mind and in the samadhi state of mind which we think is where enlightenment is realised. I think meditation and Samadhi is only part of the process of discovering the wholeness in us and how we are part of the Universe. The brain is like a mini Universe. The brain was created by the Universe in its own image. The evolution process is coming off the ether. Is enlightenment in the mind about finding this wholeness between the body and mind looking for its place in the Universe.

Personality and subjective thinking make our world grow more modular just like the brain gets more modular as we fall into unconsciousness.

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You mean what is it like for the mind to be in a state and in the presence of pure consciousness. 

There is a baseline to everything and the baseline to our mind is consciousness. It is the energy force that carries everything that our mind does. Thinking, being, emotions, reactions in the mind to stimuli, whatever that happens in the mind happens on top of consciousness.

So what is it like to be in a mind where all thinking has ended and there is only consciousness and self-awareness and being is still in existence for you to feels what is it like to be just in the presence of pure consciousness?

Remember that the energy field of consciousness is also part of the Universe, This field in the Universe is interacting with the brain and to allow thinking of the mind of the individual to operate on top of this energy field. If the umbilical cord between consciousness and the spark that consciousness creates by interacting with the brain is broken then the individual goes blank in the mind with no memory of where he has been when one’s mind comes back. So you see the mind has an end to it. This link of consciousness with the brain can be broken by using the process of meditation. So you see it is not easy for the mind to be in the presence of just consciousness. There is deliberate effort involved in getting there and when you get there in mind it is difficult to maintain that presence of pure consciousness in mind.

This is how the Buddha found enlightenment. When he was at the cusp of being in the presence of pure consciousness, his mind disappeared and when he came back in mind with no memory of where he had been he realised that life was, “a dream of existence”. It was all made up in his mind, like a picture show.

Then in Buddhism, he created teachings that showed the movement of the mind and it is demonstrated in this illustration below:

So when you ask the question what is it like to be in the presence of pure consciousness when all thinking in the mind has stopped and all action and movement in the mind has stopped, then you are really asking the question of what does it feel like to be in the presence of the whole Universe and with all the energies that are in the Universe and in presence of the being of the Universe with its natural laws with reference to being in the body and the mind. That is what you are asking, right.

Remember that when all your thinking in the mind has stopped, your personality has pretty much died by then. You would have no memory of your personality. You would just be in the presence of the Universe. I have crossed this line where the mind has crossed over to the other side and came back with no memory of where I have been and there are no fireworks.

So that is what you get by crossing the line in the mind, from yourself and into the Universal Mind.

Crossing the line:

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This is what I really look like:

My eyes and my brain tell me this is what I look like: but bald.

I going to have a book out soon on growing hair from bald. It is about reversing the ageing process. I find that if you take one symptom of ageing and then try and reverse it by natural means, using supplements, scalp care and reversing the miniaturisation of the follicle hair cells on the scalp then I will also be reversing the ageing process of my whole body. I think we die too young at 100 if we are lucky, and would like to live till I am 120 or 150 if I can, but still healthy in body as if I am in my 40’s. I am having some success in reversing miniaturisation of follicular cells on my head and it is not an impossible task. 

The lesson to learn here is to maintain a healthy scalp while you still have all your hair as to reverse the miniaturisation of follicle cells is a long process. Opening the pores up in the scalp is already a tedious process once they are covered over by skin, then reversing the size of the cells takes about 2 years etc. The follicular cells on the scalp never die off but they are reduced in size and get covered over by skin and this is why reversal is possible. You study the ageing process and find out which essential vitamins the body stops producing and then replacing them from an external source. 

I think the majority of life with us is a dying process. I think we start dying from about 35 to 40 years of age. Metabolic functions start winding down and the body is essentially killing us off slowly. Older cells in the body start accumulating in the body and they start signalling to the immune cells to start killing off the host. Then it is a cancerous diseased end. 

Kill off and flush out your older zombie cells before they turn on you. That is what science is telling us. They, the scientists say, it can add about 30 years to one’s life span. They are already testing the process on humans. Some very elderly ones who are soon going to end their days. They are finding some good results where they start to have more mobility and start taking walks. 

Take an ageing symptom and reverse it? I hope to get about 30 years out of this experiment. I am working on some spooky ways to get rid of all these old zombie cells in my body before they turn on me. I hope I will get enough years added to my life to get that book out to you.

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Does it exist?

Question:

Thank you, very nice answer.

One question about it, by verbalization you mean engaging in thoughts? Sort of the mental linear cause and effect lines of thought?

Answer:

Yes and No; to think we need to silently self-talk what we are thinking. It is as if the brain has to hear us to know what we want to think so it can process our thoughts. If you don’t simultaneously self-talk what you are thinking then you will find you cannot think at all. I think this was why the mantra was introduced in meditation to distract one from the self-talk. You can notice the slight flutter of the vocal cords. A sense of a sound in the chest cavity. It is also with reading you need to silently self-talk to comprehend what you are reading. If you see this you can use this anomaly to bring on a silent mind instantly. very useful to keep thoughts away from the mind all day long. This type of thinking is the only type of thinking that can take a fact or an observation and spin it into an idea or an illusion. Pictorial thinking and intuitive thinking are only observational forms of thinking. It cannot interact with information and spin it into an idea. When I realised this I tried to find if others have come across this or not, not many but this site might suggest this was true. Can you look at this link of mine in quora which has a link in there that suggest this observation is true? Siri Perera’s answer to What are some ways to broaden your thinking ability? 

 Here is more proof that verbal thinking is real:

From: STUART R. HAMEROFF, MD

Quantum Consciousness Theorist & Researcher

“My research involves a theory of consciousness which can bridge these two approaches, a theory developed over the past 20 years with eminent British physicist Sir Roger Penrose. Called ‘orchestrated objective reduction’ (‘Orch OR’), it suggests consciousness arises from quantum vibrations in protein polymers called microtubules inside the brain’s neurons, vibrations which interfere, ‘collapse’ and resonate across scale, control neuronal firings, generate consciousness, and connect ultimately to ‘deeper order’ ripples in spacetime geometry. Consciousness is more like music than computation.”

Overview by SH | Quantum Consciousness

 I am convinced that our frontline thinking process is not this mysterious chemical brain process but is actually a silent version of speaking aloud. The brain needs to hear what you want to think before it can process its thoughts. So you silently simultaneously self-talk what you want to think. The flutter of the vocal cords is so subtle that it does not expose how thinking actually works.

Having said that perhaps the real bombshell is that our memory itself is stored in the ether within the fabric of the Universe. The brain possibly has nothing to do with thinking itself but is just a receiver or an intermediary for processed information that happens in the ether or the space around you. You notice that thinking starts with a question asked though silently spoken it might be, and the solution processed in the ether and returned to the brain via consciousness and thinking is quietly pictorial or intuitive with no sub vocal verbalisation. You will notice under meditative silence, there is a kind of intuitive communication with another that is not the self. This could be either its local memory in the ether or the Universal Mind.

Is this a possible pathway for thinking:  Subvocal verbal thinking to start off a train of thoughts and silent pictorial intuitive thinking as feedback from the ether and consciousness after processing the question.

Remember that when you are in the presence of the noisy, personality-driven, verbal thinking mind you won’t see or sense the subtleness or details of this pathway. Only in the silent mind, you will see it laid out for you to observe its workings. As soon as you stop verbalising your thoughts frontline thinking stops, the mind becomes silent and pictorial intuitive thinking takes over. There is still an intention in mind to communicate with the greater Universal Mind. An Intention in mind, I sense, is still a form of subtle verbal thinking process in the quiet zone of the mind. To communicate with the ether one needs to verbalise one’s thoughts. I am certain of this. It seems that sound and vibration is the only way for us to communicate with the greater Mind but for nature to communicate with us silence is all it needs as in intuitive thinking. All nature needs are its energies to create a pattern in our brains for us to sense what it is thinking or saying. If there was a high magnetic field trying to communicate with you the experience would be similar to it. Scientists, working on what is consciousness, have been using Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) to find that certain parts of the brain light up when it is stimulated with a magnetic field.  

Accessing the Akashic Records, Sadhguru.

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