LIVING IN TRUTH
From the book, “The Limits of Thought”, Discussions between Jiddu Krishnamurti and David Bohm.
KRISHNAMURTI: Where shall we start, sir?
DAVID BOHM: Do you have any ideas?
KRISHNAMURTI: Lots of them. If truth is something totally different from reality, then what place has action in daily life in relation to truth and reality? Can we talk about that?
DAVID BOHM: Yes.
KRISHNAMURTI: One would like to or one should or one has to_act in truth. The action of reality is entirely different from the action of truth. Now, what is the action of truth? Is that action unrelated to the past, unrelated to an idea, an ideal? And therefore out of time? Is there ever an action out of time, or are actions always involved in time?
DAVID BOHM: Can you say that the truth acts in reality? That is, although reality may have no effect on truth, truth has some effect on reality?
KRISHNAMURTI: Yes. But one would like to find out if one lives in truth, not in the truth of reality, but in that truth which is not related to reality. Reality is a process of thought, of thinking about something that is real or reflected upon, or distorted, such as illusion
So what is action in truth? If it is not related to reality, if it is not an action in the movement of time, what is action then? Is there such action? Can my mind dissociate itself from the past and from the idea of ‘I shall be’, or ‘I will be’, or ‘I must be’ or ‘I should be’, which are projections of my own desires? Is there an action that is totally separate from all that?
DAVID BOHM: Perhaps we are going very fast. I think ordinarily the action is related to the fact.
“The Limits of Thought” Discussions
J. Krishnamurti And David Bohm
ISBN: 0-415-19398-2